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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Free agent types Reply with quote

I thought I'd post this from BA so we can refer to it. Can someone add a sticky to it? Thanks

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/askba/262766.html

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The Elias Sports Bureau rankings, used to classify free agents as Type A (top 30 percent at their position), Type B (31-50 percent) or Type C (51-60 percent), came out this week. As part of the new collective bargaining agreement, starting in 2007, Type A will become the top 20 percent and Type B will become the 21-40 percent group, with Type C now meaningless.

While the classification modifications won't take place until next year, the compensation for each group changes immediately. Type A free agents will yield the signing team's first-round pick (provided it's not in the upper half of the first round) and a supplemental first-rounder, the same as before. But Type B compensation goes from the signing team's first-round pick (with the same upper-first-round protection) to a supplemental first-round choice, and Type C goes from a supplemental second-rounder to nothing. Teams still have to offer their free agents arbitration in order to receive compensation.

Below is a list of all possible free agents who could command compensation. Those marked with an asterisk have unresolved contract situations (options or opt-out clauses) or haven't filed for free agency yet.

Ari: Miguel Batista (B), Craig Counsell (B), Luis Gonzalez (A).
Atl: Danys Baez (A).
Bal: LaTroy Hawkins (B), Kevin Millar (A).
Bos: *Keith Foulke (B), Alex Gonzalez (B), Mark Loretta (A), Trot Nixon (B).
ChC: Juan Pierre (B), Aramis Ramirez (A).
CWS: *Dustin Hermanson (A), David Riske (A).
Cin: Rich Aurilia (A), Eddie Guardado (A), *Kent Mercker (B), Scott Schoeneweis (B), David Weathers (A).
Cle: None.
Col: Jose Mesa (B).
Det: Sean Casey (A), Jamie Walker (B).
Fla: Joe Borowski (A).
Hou: *Craig Biggio (B), *Roger Clemens (A), Aubrey Huff (A), *Andy Pettitte (A), Russ Springer (A).
KC: None.
LAA: Adam Kennedy (B).
LAD: *J.D. Drew (A), Eric Gagne (A), Nomar Garciaparra (B), *Kenny Lofton (B), Julio Lugo (A), Greg Maddux (A).
Mil: Tony Graffanino (A), Rick Helling (B), Tomo Ohka (B).
Min: None.
NYM: Chad Bradford (A), Cliff Floyd (A), *Tom Glavine (A), Orlando Hernandez (B), Roberto Hernandez (A), Guillermo Mota (B), Darren Oliver (B), Jose Valentin (B).
NYY: *Mike Mussina (A), *Gary Sheffield (A), Ron Villone (B).
Oak: Jay Payton (B), Frank Thomas (B), Barry Zito (A).
Phi: *Jeff Conine (B), *David Dellucci (A), Aaron Fultz (A), Mike Lieberthal (A), Arthur Rhodes (B).
Pit: *Jeromy Burnitz (B).
StL: Ronnie Belliard (A), *Jim Edmonds (A), Jason Marquis (B), *Mark Mulder (B), Jeff Suppan (A), Jeff Weaver (B), *Preston Wilson (B).
SD: Alan Embree (B), Ryan Klesko (B), Chan Ho Park (B), *Mike Piazza (A), Dave Roberts (A), Rudy Seanez (A), Todd Walker (A), *David Wells (B), Woody Williams (A).
SF: Moises Alou (A), Barry Bonds (A), Ray Durham (A), Pedro Feliz (B), Shea Hillenbrand (B), Jason Schmidt (A), Mike Stanton (B).
Sea: Gil Meche (B).
TB: None.
Tex: Rod Barajas (B), Mark DeRosa (B), Carlos Lee (A), Gary Matthews Jr. (A), Vicente Padilla (B).
Tor: Frank Catalanotto (A), Ted Lilly (B), Bengie Molina (A), Justin Speier (A), Gregg Zaun (B).
Was: Jose Guillen (B), Ramon Ortiz (B), Alfonso Soriano (A).
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you wish.

If they offer Gonzo arbitration, do you think he'd accept? I mean, will he get $8M/year from STL? There could be worse things than having him platoon LF with Byrnes next year. Like tertiary syphilis.

ARI wants that draft pick, damnit!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

B. O. N. D. wrote:
As you wish.

If they offer Gonzo arbitration, do you think he'd accept? I mean, will he get $8M/year from STL? There could be worse things than having him platoon LF with Byrnes next year. Like tertiary syphilis.

ARI wants that draft pick, damnit!


If Gonzo accepts, the Dbacks can still trade him. Or they can tell him that he can come back, but he'll start only against right hander pitchers.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

levski wrote:
If Gonzo accepts, the Dbacks can still trade him. Or they can tell him that he can come back, but he'll start only against right hander pitchers.


$8 mil is too much for Gonzo with our budget.

He seems pretty upset with the FO and may not accept it but it's still a risky move for a draft pick.

I'm not sure that we want to take that risk.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the risk is pretty much non-existent.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read stu's post on another thread that "The 20% max reduction applies only when the arbitration is mandatory for the player. That is basically the 3-6 year arb."

If that's the case, nevermind...

Go for the draft pick.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I'd link this thread here

http://forum.diamondbacksbullpen.org/viewtopic.php?t=3474
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, the list of all free agents this winter

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/10/31/free.agents.ap/index.html
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a better site for all free agents, broken by position

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2007/03/2008_mlb_free_a.html
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By team

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/askba/265150.html

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Ari: RHP Livan Hernandez (B).
Atl: OF Andruw Jones (B), LHP Ron Mahay (B).
Bos: RHP Eric Gagne (B), 3B Mike Lowell (A), RHP Mike Timlin (B).
ChC: C Jason Kendall (B).
Cle: OF Kenny Lofton (B).
Col: RHP Jorge Julio (B), C Yorvit Torrealba (B).
Det: 1B Sean Casey (B), RHP Todd Jones (B), LHP Kenny Rogers (B).
Hou: INF Mark Loretta (B), RHP Trever Miller (B).
KC: RHP David Riske (B).
LAD: OF Luis Gonzalez (B).
Mil: RHP Francisco Cordero (A), 2B/3B Tony Graffanino (B), RHP Scott Linebrink (A).
Min: OF Torii Hunter (A).
NYM: 2B Luis Castillo (B), LHP Tom Glavine (A), OF Shawn Green (B), C Paul LoDuca (B).
NYY: LHP Andy Pettitte (A), C Jorge Posada (A), RHP Mariano Rivera (A), 3B Alex Rodriguez (A), RHP Luis Vizcaino (B).
Oak: C Mike Piazza (B), OF Shannon Stewart (B).
Phi: RHP Freddy Garcia (B), 2B Tadahito Iguchi (A), OF Aaron Rowand (A).
StL: SS David Eckstein (B), RHP Troy Percival (B), RHP Russ Springer (A).
SD: C Michael Barrett (A), OF Milton Bradley (A), RHP Doug Brocail (B), OF Mike Cameron (B).
SF: OF Barry Bonds (A), 3B Pedro Feliz (B), SS Omar Vizquel (B).
Sea: OF Jose Guillen (B).
TB: *RHP Al Reyes (B).
*Team holds 2008 option.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2002/02/2008-09-free-agents.html
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since this deals with Elias Rankings, we can refer to this thread

http://forum.diamondbacksbullpen.org/viewtopic.php?t=5039

which references

http://tigers-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/10/final-elias-projections-nl-starting.html

http://tigers-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/10/final-elias-projections-nl-relievers.html

http://tigers-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/08/projected-elias-rankings.html
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

levski wrote:
By team

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/askba/265150.html

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Ari: RHP Livan Hernandez (B).
Atl: OF Andruw Jones (B), LHP Ron Mahay (B).
Bos: RHP Eric Gagne (B), 3B Mike Lowell (A), RHP Mike Timlin (B).
ChC: C Jason Kendall (B).
Cle: OF Kenny Lofton (B).
Col: RHP Jorge Julio (B), C Yorvit Torrealba (B).
Det: 1B Sean Casey (B), RHP Todd Jones (B), LHP Kenny Rogers (B).
Hou: INF Mark Loretta (B), RHP Trever Miller (B).
KC: RHP David Riske (B).
LAD: OF Luis Gonzalez (B).
Mil: RHP Francisco Cordero (A), 2B/3B Tony Graffanino (B), RHP Scott Linebrink (A).
Min: OF Torii Hunter (A).
NYM: 2B Luis Castillo (B), LHP Tom Glavine (A), OF Shawn Green (B), C Paul LoDuca (B).
NYY: LHP Andy Pettitte (A), C Jorge Posada (A), RHP Mariano Rivera (A), 3B Alex Rodriguez (A), RHP Luis Vizcaino (B).
Oak: C Mike Piazza (B), OF Shannon Stewart (B).
Phi: RHP Freddy Garcia (B), 2B Tadahito Iguchi (A), OF Aaron Rowand (A).
StL: SS David Eckstein (B), RHP Troy Percival (B), RHP Russ Springer (A).
SD: C Michael Barrett (A), OF Milton Bradley (A), RHP Doug Brocail (B), OF Mike Cameron (B).
SF: OF Barry Bonds (A), 3B Pedro Feliz (B), SS Omar Vizquel (B).
Sea: OF Jose Guillen (B).
TB: *RHP Al Reyes (B).
*Team holds 2008 option.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Free agents not offered arbitration
By Tom Haudricourt of the Journal Sentinel
Dec. 2, 2008 10:16 a.m.


Here is a list of Class A and Class B free agents who were not offered arbitration yesterday, meaning teams can sign them without forfeiting draft picks:

C Paul Lo Duca (Class B)

C Ivan Rodriguez (Class B)

C Greg Zaun (Class B)

2B Jeff Kent (Class B)

2B Mark Loretta (Class B)

SS Edgar Renteria (Class A)

SS Juan Uribe (Class B)

OF Moises Alou (Class B)

OF Garret Anderson (Class B)

OF Pat Burrell (Class A)

OF Adam Dunn (Class A)

OF Luis Gonzalez (Class B)

OF Bobby Abreu (Class A)

OF Ken Griffey Jr. (Class B)

DH Frank Thomas (Class B)

LHP Randy Johnson (Class B)

RHP Braden Looper (Class B)

RHP Greg Maddux (Class B)

LHP Jamie Moyer (Class A)

RHP Brad Penny (Class B)

LHP Andy Pettitte (Class A)

RHP John Smoltz (Class B)

LHP Randy Wolf (Class B)

RHP Eric Gagne (Class B)

RHP Trevor Hoffman (Class A)

RHP Jason Isringhausen (Class B)

RHP Kerry Wood (Class A)

RHP Luis Ayala (Class B)

LHP Joe Beimel (Class B)

RHP Doug Brocail (Class A)

LHP Alan Embree (Class B)

RHP Bob Howry (Class A)

LHP Arthur Rhodes (Class B)

RHP Rudy Seanez (Class B)

RHP Russ Springer (Class A)

So, all of those free agents can be signed without losing draft picks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baseball America guys, in their Ask BA column, keep track of the signings of players offered arbitration. The current situation

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/ask-ba/2008/267360.html

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Remaining Compensation Free Agents
Ari: Juan Cruz (A), Orlando Hudson (A), Brandon Lyon (B).


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