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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:45 am    Post subject: Fla. Gov. Crist wants to woo Cubs to train in Fla. Reply with quote

STORY HERE

This has been mentioned in other threads ( http://forum.diamondbacksbullpen.org/viewtopic.php?p=330044&highlight=cubs+mesa#330044 ) and ( http://forum.diamondbacksbullpen.org/viewtopic.php?p=328484&highlight=cubs+mesa#328484 ) but it probably deserves its own spot for discussion. It'd be a big loss for Cubs fans in the Valley. They might even need to start following the local team.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Fla. Gov. Crist wants to woo Cubs to train in Fla. Reply with quote

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It'd be a big loss for Cubs fans in the Valley. They might even need to start following the local team.


As much as I'd like to see more teams leave Florida for Arizona, TAP has found the upside for a potential move by the Cubs to the Grapefruit League... Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crist wanted Bobby Bowden back too Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mesa's Cubs facilities may get $750,000 in upgrades
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mesa's Cubs facilities may get $750,000 in upgrades


$750K for two buildings that aren't even completely enclosed?!!?!

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The buildings could cost that much, she said, because they'll involve electrical hookups, foundation and structural supports, sturdy roofs and sides extending partway to the ground. There will also be netting to keep balls from flying all over the park.


Hell, I know some guys--we'll do it for $100K each, and pocket $80K of pure profit.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Bagnato / AP Sports today wrote:
The Chicago Cubs expect to decide within a month whether to keep their spring training home in Arizona or move to Florida.

Cubs president Crane Kenney planned to meet with Mesa officials on Wednesday to discuss options for a new stadium and minor league complex to replace HoHoKam Park. The club also is entertaining an offer in Naples, Fla.

Kenney said he will present proposals from Arizona and Florida to the Ricketts family, which bought the team last year.

The Cubs first trained in Mesa in 1952 and have been there almost every spring since. As the top draw in the Cactus League, they routinely attract overflow crowds at 12,623-seat HoHoKam Park.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Florida can have the Cubs if they promise to take all their fans with them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cubs keep spring home in Arizona
Team decides against moving to Florida; gets $84-million new facility
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/2010/01/21/20100121mesa-cubs-spring-training.html

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A specific site has not been announced, but the Cubs showed interest in several sites in east Mesa, Brady said.

"They have expressed an interest in not only operating the facility, but they want to be in position where they control the surrounding area," he said.

The Cubs would develop Wrigleyville West, hotels, restaurants and other tourism-related businesses that also would help Mesa maximize spring-training revenue, Brady said.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good start, hopefully Mesa can follow through.

I don't think any facility should be built using tax payers money that doesn't support TWO teams, but if there is an exception to that thinking it would be the Cubs since they are the biggest draw.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's obscene for the city of Mesa to even consider it (15 games per year in a new stadium). If they could get another tennant (eg, Oakland Athletics {Phoenix Municipal stadium isn't exactly a paradise and neither is Maryvale where the Brewers train}), it wouldn't be so objectionable. Have they ever thought of approaching either of those two teams to replace the Cubs?

They should call the Cubs' bluff. Better yet, let the Cubs move to Naples. Seeing as how players don't even like to leave the Phoenix area to go to games in Tucson, I wonder how they'll enjoy riding the bus around south Florida to away games.

I live in Mesa, and when and if it comes to a vote, I intend to vote against it!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nanc102179 wrote:

I live in Mesa, and when and if it comes to a vote, I intend to vote against it!


Given Mesa's voting record... it would be a shock if you stated otherwise Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nanc102179 wrote:
I think it's obscene for the city of Mesa to even consider it (15 games per year in a new stadium). If they could get another tennant (eg, Oakland Athletics {Phoenix Municipal stadium isn't exactly a paradise and neither is Maryvale where the Brewers train}), it wouldn't be so objectionable. Have they ever thought of approaching either of those two teams to replace the Cubs?

They should call the Cubs' bluff. Better yet, let the Cubs move to Naples. Seeing as how players don't even like to leave the Phoenix area to go to games in Tucson, I wonder how they'll enjoy riding the bus around south Florida to away games.

I live in Mesa, and when and if it comes to a vote, I intend to vote against it!


The Maryvale stadium is actually quite nice. It is smaller than most but is really open and unique. It just is not in the best location. Probably a better option would be the Angels. As much as they have put into Diablo the past years, it is still my least favorite stadium.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mesa OKs Cubs deal, awaits word from team
Council agrees to build new stadium if team stays
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mesa OKs Cubs deal, awaits word from team
Council agrees to build new stadium if team stays


The whole package, however, has to be approved by the voters on Mesa. The measure is on the November ballot; and Mesa has been notorious of late when it comes to passing these kinds of deals...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EvilJuan wrote:
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Mesa OKs Cubs deal, awaits word from team
Council agrees to build new stadium if team stays


The whole package, however, has to be approved by the voters on Mesa. The measure is on the November ballot; and Mesa has been notorious of late when it comes to passing these kinds of deals...

They rejected the Cardinals and passed them over to Glendale.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just heard on NPR that Cubs have decided to remain in Mesa.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know what are the two E Mesa locations that they are considering?
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Does anyone know what are the two E Mesa locations that they are considering?

ESPN said three east Mesa sites are being considered, but they didn't specify the sites.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's where I got the 2 sites from:

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/cactus/articles/2010/01/27/20100127cubs-keep-spring-training-in-mesa27-ON.html

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If the Cubs move into a complex at one of two east Mesa sites under consideration, they would be obligated to stay for a minimum of 25 years.

Smith and other leaders have said that no matter what form the legislation takes, it would not tap into Arizona's depleted general fund revenues as the state grapples with an anticipated $3.4 billion budget deficit for the upcoming 2010-2011 fiscal year. The goal is to have the tourists who use the new facility pay for it as much as possible.


I'm just wondering if the old GM proving grounds by Williams AFB is a possibility.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Florida governor won't give up...

John Frank / tampabay.com yesterday wrote:
Addressing reporters and editors from around the state, Gov. Charlie Crist on Wednesday said he will push for legislation to give the Chicago Cubs $15 million in incentives to move their spring training camp from Arizona to Naples.

It's likely a futile move given that local officials in Arizona already passed an incentive package.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did hear that the two locations are at the 202 & Recker and near Williams & the GM proving grounds.
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Mike Sunnucks / Phoenix Business Journal today wrote:
The Chicago White Sox and Arizona Diamondbacks oppose a plan to have the entire Cactus League bankroll the $84 million stadium being built in Mesa for the Chicago Cubs.

Arizona lawmakers are crafting plans that could impose new ticket charges on all Cactus League games and raise rental car taxes Valleywide to help pay for the Cubs’ new spring training complex.

Cactus League President Robert Brinton said ticket surcharges previously have been used by specific cities to fund baseball stadiums within their jurisdictions, but this is the first time a leaguewide fee could be imposed for one project. In a nutshell, the D-backs, Sox and spring training fans Valleywide would help foot the bill for Mesa to build a 15,000-seat stadium for the Cubs.

“We’re opposed,” said White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf.

He said other teams and their fans did not finance development of the new White Sox stadium in Glendale, and he thinks it’s unfair to have other teams pay for the Cubs complex in Mesa. The Sox share the new Camelback Ranch stadium with the Los Angeles Dodgers.

D-backs President Derrick Hall also doesn’t like the idea of leaguewide ticket surcharges to benefit the Cubs.

“We want the Cubs to stay here badly, but not at the expense of our fans,” Hall said. “I’ve heard the argument that the other teams should be willing to because of the visiting crowds that the Cubs bring to their games. They do draw well, as do we, yet we were creative in our search for a new site to identify a partner willing to finance the entire project without public dollars.”
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cue the Dan Bickley article attacking Derrick Hall because "the only team that matters in the Cactus League is the Cubs."

The comments I heard from derrick on the radio were right on the money. We paid for our stadium without public money, now we have to pay for the Cubs stadium too?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Cactus League stuff is hilarious.

Which side of their faces are the Clubs going to be talking out of next week?
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