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Most Likely Webb Scenario?
Pick up $8.5M option for 2010
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Buy out option for $2M
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Work out compromise for less than $8.5M (only valid if there's actually a deal)
15%
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theguyonthecouch wrote:
With how many sucky starting pitchers we have in the minors I wouldn't be opposed to offering Webb a contract if he can prove he is healthy. You are looking at potentially:

1. Dan Haren
2. Brandon Webb
3. Ian Kennedy
4. Edwin Jackson
5. Jarrod Parker

That could be potentially the best starting rotation in baseball next year if they pitch like they should.


With payroll cuts its going to look more like this.

1. IK
2. Parker
3. Flunky castoff one
4. Flunky castoff two
5. Mulvey

And get ready, a season ticket holder told me tonight they are going to make him commit to two years of season tickets to get All-Star tickets.

That cant be right can it? Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THE SHADOW wrote:
theguyonthecouch wrote:
With how many sucky starting pitchers we have in the minors I wouldn't be opposed to offering Webb a contract if he can prove he is healthy. You are looking at potentially:

1. Dan Haren
2. Brandon Webb
3. Ian Kennedy
4. Edwin Jackson
5. Jarrod Parker

That could be potentially the best starting rotation in baseball next year if they pitch like they should.


With payroll cuts its going to look more like this.

1. IK
2. Parker
3. Flunky castoff one
4. Flunky castoff two
5. Mulvey

And get ready, a season ticket holder told me tonight they are going to make him commit to two years of season tickets to get All-Star tickets.

That cant be right can it? Confused

With $20M coming off of the books with Webb and Byrnes, wouldn't that help out our payroll too to help keep someone like Haren?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Team hopes to go to a $65 million dollar payroll next season. Thats the number I've heard and seen in print the most.

Hell with a good fire sale they could get there this year. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any numbers people are throwing out are pulled completely out of their asses. What are some comps on any other good pitchers that had serious injuries recently?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THE SHADOW wrote:
Team hopes to go to a $65 million dollar payroll next season. Thats the number I've heard and seen in print the most.

Hell with a good fire sale they could get there this year. Wink


85 this year?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matt wrote:
Any numbers people are throwing out are pulled completely out of their asses. What are some comps on any other good pitchers that had serious injuries recently?


Ben Sheets got a pretty good money (one year) for not having done much recently. Granted, it was not a mult-year deal, but I think it was $8MM for just the one year.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good one. Sheets got $10M for this year after missing all of 2009.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Optimistic, smiling Webb finally feeling good

PHOENIX (AP)—Brandon Webb(notes) says something clicked and he has finally found his pitching form. The former NL Cy Young winner says he hopes to make six to eight starts for the Arizona Diamondbacks this season.

That would put him back with the team in late August.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-diamondbacks-webb
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay. Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of funny that he felt so horrible while Hinch is the manager. When Hinch is fired Webb is miraculously cured.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kind of funny that he felt so horrible while Hinch is the manager. When Hinch is fired Webb is miraculously cured.


someone else on the "webby milking it" bus with me! didnt think of that at all....
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing
This is hilarious.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'd be nice if he'd make it a little less obvious.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's more Josh Byrnes than Hinch.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TAP wrote:
It'd be nice if he'd make it a little less obvious.


Why?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prosopis wrote:
TAP wrote:
It'd be nice if he'd make it a little less obvious.


Why?


Because nobody likes a player who complains about the new manager, then milks an injury until the manager is fired, then is cured the second the new manager takes over.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jdub wrote:
Prosopis wrote:
TAP wrote:
It'd be nice if he'd make it a little less obvious.


Why?


Because nobody likes a player who complains about the new manager, then milks an injury until the manager is fired, then is cured the second the new manager takes over.


i find it funny how i have been saying all year that i think webby is milking it, and i got some good heat from it..... im happy to see people joining me on the bus Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJ-DBACKS-FAN wrote:
Jdub wrote:
Prosopis wrote:
TAP wrote:
It'd be nice if he'd make it a little less obvious.


Why?


Because nobody likes a player who complains about the new manager, then milks an injury until the manager is fired, then is cured the second the new manager takes over.


i find it funny how i have been saying all year that i think webby is milking it, and i got some good heat from it..... im happy to see people joining me on the bus Laughing


When was I ever not on the bus?
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Justin wrote:
NJ-DBACKS-FAN wrote:
Jdub wrote:
Prosopis wrote:
TAP wrote:
It'd be nice if he'd make it a little less obvious.


Why?


Because nobody likes a player who complains about the new manager, then milks an injury until the manager is fired, then is cured the second the new manager takes over.


i find it funny how i have been saying all year that i think webby is milking it, and i got some good heat from it..... im happy to see people joining me on the bus Laughing


When was I ever not on the bus?


i didnt say who was with me or against me.... Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Jeez.

I have no doubt (especially considering his comments) that AJ Hinch was not well liked by Webb.

But if this were all some elaborate ruse to get a Manager fired, why not come back now?

A healthy Brandon Webb could make a huge difference in Kirk Gibson's W/L record, who he obviously likes, so why come back in late August instead of late July or early August?
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Oh Jeez.

I have no doubt (especially considering his comments) that AJ Hinch was not well liked by Webb.

But if this were all some elaborate ruse to get a Manager fired, why not come back now?

A healthy Brandon Webb could make a huge difference in Kirk Gibson's W/L record, who he obviously likes, so why come back in late August instead of late July or early August?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJ-DBACKS-FAN wrote:
Justin wrote:
NJ-DBACKS-FAN wrote:
Jdub wrote:
Prosopis wrote:
TAP wrote:
It'd be nice if he'd make it a little less obvious.


Why?


Because nobody likes a player who complains about the new manager, then milks an injury until the manager is fired, then is cured the second the new manager takes over.


i find it funny how i have been saying all year that i think webby is milking it, and i got some good heat from it..... im happy to see people joining me on the bus Laughing


When was I ever not on the bus?


i didnt say who was with me or against me.... Wink


I knew it all along!
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YBC-Dog wrote:
Oh Jeez.

I have no doubt (especially considering his comments) that AJ Hinch was not well liked by Webb.

But if this were all some elaborate ruse to get a Manager fired, why not come back now?

A healthy Brandon Webb could make a huge difference in Kirk Gibson's W/L record, who he obviously likes, so why come back in late August instead of late July or early August?


He still needs to get ready. He hasn't had spring training or anything yet.
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Jdub wrote:
YBC-Dog wrote:
Oh Jeez.

I have no doubt (especially considering his comments) that AJ Hinch was not well liked by Webb.

But if this were all some elaborate ruse to get a Manager fired, why not come back now?

A healthy Brandon Webb could make a huge difference in Kirk Gibson's W/L record, who he obviously likes, so why come back in late August instead of late July or early August?


He still needs to get ready. He hasn't had spring training or anything yet.


Exactly.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin wrote:
Jdub wrote:
YBC-Dog wrote:
Oh Jeez.

I have no doubt (especially considering his comments) that AJ Hinch was not well liked by Webb.

But if this were all some elaborate ruse to get a Manager fired, why not come back now?

A healthy Brandon Webb could make a huge difference in Kirk Gibson's W/L record, who he obviously likes, so why come back in late August instead of late July or early August?


He still needs to get ready. He hasn't had spring training or anything yet.


Exactly.


Exactly.

If there is really nothing wrong and he has been pretending to be hurt, he can start stretching out now and go on a minor league rehab assignment and be ready in about 4 or 5 weeks.

Instead it sounds like he is about 2 months out, which is the same timeframe we have been hearing since he went down with an injury almost 2 years ago.

If Webb never pitches again (at least at the level he once did), will this be some elaborate ruse to get Hinch fired?

Did he go get pretty major shoulder surgery because he wanted to get Hinch fired too?

I never thought I would see people treating Brandon Webb, the franchises greatest homegrown talent (till Upton steps up), so disrespectfully.

He definitely needs to create an account here so people will be forced to show him some respect like Derrick Hall gets around here.
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