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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Rahl hit a monster pinch hit home run in the fifth to continue his hot hitting since the All-star break.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the Diamondbacks known for not rushing their position players at all through the organization compared to other players...They seem to get the pitchers through on a pace comparable to most other teams, but seems like they don't ever promote the position prospects during the year (Goldschmidt, Wheeler, Krauss, etc)...all 3 are already 22, why such the slow pace? Compared to other orginazations (Cubs, Mariners come to mind being very aggresive) Whats the overall thought/mentality on this?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That does seem to be the case during the Josh Brynes/ AJ Hinch era. The rare exception was Upton who probably needed more time at the higher levels of the minors to refine his game. Especially with a position change to the outfield.
Don't know what the new or next regime will do.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Upton was rushed. Reynolds was rushed (albeit out of necessity). Outside of that, I can't think of any instances where a player was rushed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even though it is at Low Class A i think the performances of Eury De La Rosa should be noted. A undersized lefty at 5'9, 150 expectations werent high for De La Rosa coming into the season but what he has done so far has been nothing short of remarkable. Working exclusively out of the the pen De La Rosa he has an ERA of 0.36 through 25 innings with a 29/9 K/BB ratio and only 10 hits all season. He had a mediocre season last year in Missoula but even there his K/BB was very good and had a good groundball rate which he has continued this year and his results should have people take notice of him within the organisation.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohdbacks wrote:
Are the Diamondbacks known for not rushing their position players at all through the organization compared to other players...They seem to get the pitchers through on a pace comparable to most other teams, but seems like they don't ever promote the position prospects during the year (Goldschmidt, Wheeler, Krauss, etc)...all 3 are already 22, why such the slow pace? Compared to other orginazations (Cubs, Mariners come to mind being very aggresive) Whats the overall thought/mentality on this?


I too feel that the organisation at times has been to slow in promoting players especially hitters. In the case of the three you've mentioned, Goldshmidt, Krauss and Wheeler, i believe they should already have been promoted to Mobile.

I think the problem to some degree is that Mobile is doing well this year and these are blocked.However Reno is in a dire state so i dont understand why the likes of Cowgill, Linton and Byrne arent sent to Reno and have those filled by the three Visalia stars. The three mobile players are already 24/25 and a promotion to Reno is overdue for them as well. The likes of Yunesky Sanchez, Drew Macias, and Ed Rogers should either see a chance with the big league club when the purge at the trade deadline happens or be released.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why all this "Crazy Talk" do you really think this team knows what they are doing? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohdbacks wrote:
Are the Diamondbacks known for not rushing their position players at all through the organization compared to other players...They seem to get the pitchers through on a pace comparable to most other teams, but seems like they don't ever promote the position prospects during the year (Goldschmidt, Wheeler, Krauss, etc)...all 3 are already 22, why such the slow pace? Compared to other orginazations (Cubs, Mariners come to mind being very aggresive) Whats the overall thought/mentality on this?


Both Goldschmidt and Krauss will be 23 in the next couple of months and need to be moved up to Mobile, if only to get acclimated to the league they'll be playing in next year. I think the only thing holding them back are their high K numbers and perhaps their defensive short comings, just a guess.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Rogers is almost 32 years old and is a career AAA player. Drew Macias is hitting .240 for the season but is trending the wrong way hitting .170 for July. Yunesky Sanchez is a utility infielder and has Roberts, Ryal, Abreu, and Augie in front of him.

None of these deserve a callup. Instead Deeds, Allen, and Bailey deserve callups and Rahl should play every day in place of the slumping Macias.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THE SHADOW wrote:
Why all this "Crazy Talk" do you really think this team knows what they are doing? Rolling Eyes


Oh im not deluding myself, its just good to vent your fury once in a while Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dbacks watcher wrote:
Ed Rogers is almost 32 years old and is a career AAA player. Drew Macias is hitting .240 for the season but is trending the wrong way hitting .170 for July. Yunesky Sanchez is a utility infielder and has Roberts, Ryal, Abreu, and Augie in front of him.

None of these deserve a callup. Instead Deeds, Allen, and Bailey deserve callups and Rahl should play every day in place of the slumping Macias.


Thats what i was trying to say. Either release them if the are not good enough, Rogers, Macias and Sanchez, or call them up if they deserve a chance in the cases of Allen, Bailey and Deeds.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron B wrote:
ohdbacks wrote:
Are the Diamondbacks known for not rushing their position players at all through the organization compared to other players...They seem to get the pitchers through on a pace comparable to most other teams, but seems like they don't ever promote the position prospects during the year (Goldschmidt, Wheeler, Krauss, etc)...all 3 are already 22, why such the slow pace? Compared to other orginazations (Cubs, Mariners come to mind being very aggresive) Whats the overall thought/mentality on this?


Both Goldschmidt and Krauss will be 23 in the next couple of months and need to be moved up to Mobile, if only to get acclimated to the league they'll be playing in next year. I think the only thing holding them back are their high K numbers and perhaps their defensive short comings, just a guess.


Both the Mobile and Visalia teams are in the hunt for the playoffs. Along with player development, a part of that development is playing to win some games. Being involved in a playoff run is a good opportunity to see how young kids respond in this type of situation.

Another possible reason why the 3 at Visalia are still in HiA is they don't want to take them up and not play everyday...there has to be a spot for them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

7/27

TEAM CLASS PLAYER, POS AB R H BI AVG
ARI AAA Allen, Brandon LF 4 1 2 3 .265 HR (18 )
ARI HiA Goldschmidt, Paul 1B 4 1 1 1 .308 HR (28 )
ARI HiA Perez, Rossmel C 3 2 1 1 .263 HR (4)

TEAM CLASS PITCHER IP H R ER BB K ERA
ARI MAJ Norberto, Jordan 0 2 2 2 0 0 11.05 L (0-1)
ARI R Schuster, Patrick 5 4 6 3 2 4 4.28 L (2-3)

Yosbel Gutierrez was 3-for-5
Bobby Stone was 3-for-5
Ryan Cook struck out 6 batters and only allowed 2 earned runs over 5.0 innings pitched yesterday

Brandon Allen has seven homers and 13 RBIs in his last seven games Shocked

Brandon Allen homered for the third straight game and drove in three runs, while Ryan Roberts went yard and had two RBIs as Reno fell to Las Vegas, 7-5, on Tuesday night.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

7/28

TEAM CLASS PLAYER, POS AB R H BI AVG
ARI AA Cowgill, Collin CF 3 1 1 2 .294 HR (12), SB (20)
ARI HiA Goldschmidt, Paul 1B 6 2 4 4 .314 HR (29), SB (4)
ARI HiA Perez, Rossmel DH 4 1 3 1 .270 CS (3)
ARI LoA Davidson, Matt 3B 4 0 2 0 .289 2 2B (27)
ARI LoA Nick, David 2B 4 1 2 1 .260 HR (4)

TEAM CLASS PITCHER IP H R ER BB K ERA
ARI AAA Kroenke, Zach 4 2 0 0 2 2 4.48
ARI AAA Septimo, Leyson 2 1 0 0 1 2 7.94

Bryan Henry only allowed one run in 8.1 innings pitched
Matthew Davidson hit 2 extra-base hits
Ender Inciarte hit 2 extra-base hits
Michael Freeman was 3-for-5
Raoul Torrez was 3-for-4

Paul Goldschmidt has gone deep three times in his last four games

Paul Goldschmidt tied the Minor League lead by blasting his 29th homer and added three singles to finish with four RBIs as Visalia outslugged Lancaster, 14-10, on Wednesday
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goldschmidt hit that HR in Lancaster... we know what kind of park that is... the score in that game was 16-10 - to give you an idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

qudjy1 wrote:
Goldschmidt hit that HR in Lancaster... we know what kind of park that is... the score in that game was 16-10 - to give you an idea.


Come on qudjy lay off the guy,, we all know that he plays in the Cal league and that his numbers have been inflated by it but give him credit where credit is due and that is that he is done extremely well everywhere we've sent him so far.

Also there are a lot of hitter friendly parks and leagues in the minors but nobody else is putting up the same numbers there so Goldshmidth deserve's a mention for his good performances.

He didnt steal your girlfriend did he Q? Laughing
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He didnt steal your girlfriend did he Q? Laughing


Laughing

I just think we need to "rethink" the praise we give for HRs. My point is in the other thread.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

qudjy1 wrote:

I just think we need to "rethink" the praise we give for HRs. My point is in the other thread.


Yeah i know what you mean and i think your point is extremely valid. Goldshmidt will have to prove his power translates to the upper levels, Mobile & Reno and eventually the ML. Also he has to cut his K's down like you pointed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

7/29


TEAM CLASS PLAYER, POS AB R H BI AVG
ARI AAA Ciriaco, Pedro SS 4 1 2 2 .259 2B (15)


TEAM CLASS PITCHER IP H R ER BB K ERA
ARI AA Miley, Wade 5 2 0 0 1 5 1.59 W (3-1)
ARI AAA Collmenter, Josh 5.2 7 3 3 4 0 5.40 W (3-2)
ARI AAA Rodriguez, Rafael 2.1 2 0 0 0 1 2.96

Jeff Bailey was 3-for-5 with 5 RBI
Johan Jaime only allowed 2 runs and 4 hits over 6.0 innings pitched
Wade Miley pitched 5.0 scoreless innings
Adam Eaton was 3-for-4
Michael Freeman was 3-for-5

Wade Miley was 4-5 with a 3.25 ERA at Class A Advanced Visalia.

Wade Miley improved to 3-1 by allowing two hits and fanning five over five frames as Mobile edged Montgomery, 1-0, on Thursday. The first-rounder has a 1.59 ERA since his promotion
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wade Miley showing the same symptoms as Goldy? 3.25 ERA good enough for Cal League, and then keeping it sub 1.3 for the Southern League, which is a more neutralized league.

With one month to go, a strong finish could help him start in AAA next season, if he wasn't planning to go already. Then again, the AA to MLB jump isn't out of the question these days with AAA just being a veteran's dumpster now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then again, the AA to MLB jump isn't out of the question these days with AAA just being a veteran's dumpster now.

That's exactly what I've noticed about AAA lately, just a dumpster to catch some players who used to be good Smile Got to see Wily Mo Pena a few days ago... I think he used to be good.......
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