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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know....

just glad to have you back around.....so I'm trying to pick an argument. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoewizard wrote:
I know....

just glad to have you back around.....so I'm trying to pick an argument. Laughing

that's how he shows his love Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoewizard wrote:
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just glad to have you back around.....so I'm trying to pick an argument. Laughing


meh. i'm just glad the avatar is back Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the main knock on Uggla is that he's a bad defender, but everytime I see him play he really suprises me. He's no Hudson, but he's no slouch out there either.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryal goes 5-for-5 w/ 2 HR's
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second coming of Dan Uggla!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Second coming of Dan Uggla!


Lets hope it's not the second going. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Second coming of Dan Uggla!


Lets hope it's not the second going. Wink


Ha, I sure hope not.
I actually want him to at least get a chance to compete for that secondbae job next year. Burke is gonner, Augie's a solid role player, I still am not sure about Bonifacio.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm working on an article for the snakepit that compares and contrasts Ryal and Bonifacio based on their statistical track record. Just got done with the E-bone part of the article. So what did I learn? The dude just can't hit. He strikes out way too much, and he just doesn't walk enough. Oh, and he's got no power. I'm very very skeptical of Bonifacio having much success if at all at the major league level. I don't think he's the answer to the question of who will replace O-dawg when he leaves.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zephon wrote:
I'm working on an article for the snakepit that compares and contrasts Ryal and Bonifacio based on their statistical track record. Just got done with the E-bone part of the article. So what did I learn? The dude just can't hit. He strikes out way too much, and he just doesn't walk enough. Oh, and he's got no power. I'm very very skeptical of Bonifacio having much success if at all at the major league level. I don't think he's the answer to the question of who will replace O-dawg when he leaves.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That being said, I don't think Bonifacio is useless. I just remain skeptical of him ever being good enough to start on a self-respecting team.

Whether the Dbacks are a self-respecting team is another matter...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryal's up to 11 hr's in 286 ab's.
.297/.351/.476 line for him so far.

I still say he should be promoted to Tucson at some point during the second half...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ryal's up to 11 hr's in 286 ab's.
.297/.351/.476 line for him so far.

I still say he should be promoted to Tucson at some point during the second half...


I'm down with that.....but keep in mind he plays 2b, so if he goes to Tucson that means Bonifacio is here. I could live with that. I would rather see Bonifacio trying to develop than watch even one more of Chris Burke's at bats.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bring Rusty Ryal up, now.
Emilio should be called up to replace Chris Burke.
If not, put him at oufield and bring Tim Raines Jr. up
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20/20 Hindsight... but we should have kept Trot Nixon in reserve...should coulda woulda...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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20/20 Hindsight... but we should have kept Trot Nixon in reserve...should coulda woulda...

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you do know Nixon sucks, right?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoewizard wrote:
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Ryal's up to 11 hr's in 286 ab's.
.297/.351/.476 line for him so far.

I still say he should be promoted to Tucson at some point during the second half...


I'm down with that.....but keep in mind he plays 2b, so if he goes to Tucson that means Bonifacio is here. I could live with that. I would rather see Bonifacio trying to develop than watch even one more of Chris Burke's at bats.


Part 1: Affirmative.
Part 2: Negative.

Ryal should be called up relatively soon, though...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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csktech wrote:
20/20 Hindsight... but we should have kept Trot Nixon in reserve...should coulda woulda...

Kyle


you do know Nixon sucks, right?


Yea but its a matter of if he sucks more or less than what we already had. He was cheap and was having decent year in AAA before we gave him away.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant to put this in the Ryal thread...so double posting it over here

These two players played at the same age in the same league, but separated by 3 years.

Code:

Player     BB%    K%      HR%     ISO     OBP    RC/G

Player 1   9.1    18.1    3.7    .205    .378    6.75

Player 2   8.3    18.4    3.5    .168    .347    5.24


Of course player 1 is Uggla, and player 2 is Ryal.

Offensively, Ryal looks like a poor man's Dan Uggla to me. Uggla has posted slugging heavy OPS+ the last 3 years of 112, 108, 148, and RC/G of 5.9, 5.5, & 7.7 (so far this year)

Projection for 2009 at major league level:

Code:
Optimistic  (20%)  .260/.320/.440   .760 OPS
Median (60%)       .245/.305/.420   .725 OPS
Pessimistic(20%)   .230/.290/.400   .690 OPS


Defensively, it's hard to say, I just don't have enough scouting info on him. It's interesting to note he's only made 7 errors and has a .981 flg %. Uggla made 18 errors and had a .959 flg% in Tenn in 2005. So Ryal may be less error prone.

Of course, forgetting the All Star game, Uggla has only made 6 errors this year, and has a +4 rating from fielding bible, and ranks 7th. Last year he was -19 and ranked 29th, and the year before, exactly neutral, 0 rating, ranked 14th.

Bottom line, I don't think Ryal has anywhere near Uggla's upside. We should be careful not to overrate him out of fear of getting burned twice.

One final note:

Since 1994, There are 3 secondbasemen that have come up to the majors for their rookie year at either age 25 or age 26 and got at least 300 PA's

Here is what those rookie years looked like.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still think it will be Reynolds at 2B and Tracy at 3B next season, unless they go out and sign a FA 2B. It doesn't appear that there is anyone in the minor leagues that will be ready next year at 2B. Perhaps Hallberg can move up fast and play 2B in 2010.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, is Mr. Ryal gonna be fast-tracked to the bigs, or is he still behind some guys in the line?

I assume the SS at Tucson is having a fluky year against AAA pitching, Merchan, and would be a poor bench choice.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm all for giving Rusty Ryal a chance at the bigs.
But who knows?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost a year later, it's time to bump this thread...

Rusty Ryal, love the name. Not sure about the glove or the bat.
But at this point, shouldn't he figure in the discussion for the 2010 2b job?

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=IF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=489277

Looking at those stats, you're really seeing a guy with decent pop but not much plate discipline
The question is, how good (or bad) is his defense at 2b?

He's played 47 games at 2b this year
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=ryal--001rus

Judging at least by the Errors divided by total chances, it might be his best position?
Similarly, he played 97 games at AA Mobile last year, with similar fielding percentage.

Does anyone have a scouting report on his defense?
And how much time do you give to Roberts before you call up Ryal?


Also, FWIW, his MLE, according to minorleaguesplits is

0.233 0.282 0.409 0.691 OPS

http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?pl=489277
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about we give August to Roberts and then call up Ryal and then start him every day in September. That was if Ryal falters, we still have Roberts on the 25 man roster (well, I dont know how many sept callups we are allowed).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin wrote:
How about we give August to Roberts and then call up Ryal and then start him every day in September. That was if Ryal falters, we still have Roberts on the 25 man roster (well, I dont know how many sept callups we are allowed).


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