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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Giants Problems Reply with quote

San Francisco Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum was taken to a New York City hospital Tuesday afternoon after complaining of not feeling well, a Giants spokesperson said. That same spokesperson said Lincecum was dehydrated and had flu-like symptoms.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure the Giants problems can be contained in one message board topic.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does that increase the chances of Webb pitching tonight? Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

B. O. N. D. wrote:
Does that increase the chances of Webb pitching tonight? Confused


No, but it probably increases somebody like Billy Wagner.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too bad... because tonights game "matterS"
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: Giants Problems Reply with quote

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San Francisco Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum was taken to a New York City hospital Tuesday afternoon after complaining of not feeling well, a Giants spokesperson said. That same spokesperson said Lincecum was dehydrated and had flu-like symptoms.

The Giants have touched base with Tim Lincecum's agent about opening discussions this winter on a contract similar to the four-year deals they have given to Matt Cain and Noah Lowry.

But agent Rick Thurman told the Mercury News that he expects to negotiate one-year contracts for Lincecum, whose credentials could warrant larger salaries through arbitration.

"I'd say there's a good chance we'll go that way," Thurman said. "We'll let this play out."

The Giants are in no danger of losing Lincecum soon. He isn't eligible for arbitration until after next year and he couldn't become a free agent until after the 2012 season.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually think that is short sighted on his agent's part. He isn't going to be a FA till he's 29. He sould lock up his lifetime security NOW, in exchange for one year of free agency, and if he makes it to age 30 without any major injuries, he'll still be able to sign a megabucks contract. If he gets hurt, he'll have guaranteed good money till he's 30 anyway.

AND the way these things work, if he goes the next 3-4 years healthy, he will have a chance to re negotiate and extend past age 30 if he wants.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He doesn't even need to give up a year of free agency.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian Wilson is a strange strange guy

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/touchingbase/2008/07/nine-innings-giants-levitator.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary Peterson / InsideBayArea.com wrote:
This would be the ideal time to offload, say, the likes of Dave Roberts, Randy Winn and Omar Vizquel to accelerate the greening of the Giants.

From here, there appear to be only two impediments to such a turn of events. One would be Giants general manager Brian Sabean. "Do the math we're in a pennant race," Sabean said three short weeks ago. More recently, he went on record with his disinclination to make a trade simply to make a trade.

The other impediment would be manager Bochy, whose lineup for Saturday's game included the likes of the aforementioned Roberts, Winn and Vizquel. Just last Tuesday, with the Giants 17 games below .500 and 8 games out of first place, Bochy insisted, "We're still going to be playing to win. You never know in this division."

But being a baseball man means being raised in the tradition of reflexively trying to win every game you play. It means resisting the urge to rush a prospect. Which may help explain why journeyman minor league catcher Steve Holm was promoted to the big club this week while 21-year-old Pablo Sandoval remained at Double-A, where he is hitting .330.

It means deferring to established, and in some cases distinguished, major leaguers such as Winn one reason outfielder Nate Schierholtz has spent the entire season at Triple-A despite a .312 average, 14 home runs and 63 RBI.

It means deluding yourself into thinking you're still in the division race when you're on pace to lose 94 games. Granted, the implosion of the NL West front-running Arizona came into Saturday's game with a robust .500 record gives legs to such a fantasy. On the other hand, if you were the Giants, would you really want to take this team into a playoff series?

Moreover, being a baseball man means understanding that your job status and employability are joined at the hip with your team's winning percentage. Which is why those of you hoping that "Uncle!" might soon be added to the Giants' official lexicon might want to consider adding this phrase to yours:

"Wait till next year."

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The part about playing the SD game and blowing the save, then doing it for real that night. He promptly threw the game away.

Too funny.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Story about Fred Lewis.

Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

qudjy1 wrote:
Story about Fred Lewis.

Crying or Very sad


Wow. That's heartbreaking.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lincecum threw 132 pitches tonight. Is Bruce Bochy out of his freaking mind?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lincecum threw 132 pitches tonight. Is Bruce Bochy out of his freaking mind?

We have someone recovering from cancer that Melvin left in for 124 pitches.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nystro wrote:
Lincecum threw 132 pitches tonight. Is Bruce Bochy out of his freaking mind?


I saw that. Crazy.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TAP wrote:
nystro wrote:
Lincecum threw 132 pitches tonight. Is Bruce Bochy out of his freaking mind?

We have someone recovering from cancer that Melvin left in for 124 pitches.


In a pennant race. Who only throws 80 MPH and is not the future star of our team. And who didn't have cancer of the arm tendons.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

levski wrote:
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Lincecum threw 132 pitches tonight. Is Bruce Bochy out of his freaking mind?


I saw that. Crazy.


Lincecum's mechanics are crafted to maximize the kinetic energy, and to put about 90% of the effort on his core and legs and only 10% on his shoulder and arm. For him, throwing 130 pitches is about the same as someone getting a really good core workout in the gym. His arm probably doesn't even feel like it threw 100, right now.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Timmy is honest. There have been a couple of games when he said that his legs are cramping. He was adamant that he felt great and the 'pen had been used quite a bit," Giants manager Bruce Bochy said. "We had no problem sending him back out."
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Throwing a baseball overhand is a completely unnatural motion and, good mechanics or not, it's going to be a constant fight to not hurt yourself. The more you repeat the action, the greater chance of doing harm. The greatest risk of failed mechanics is the time when you're most fatigued. Never say never.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember when everyone thought Prior's mechanics were so super-awesome?
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Remember when everyone thought Prior's mechanics were so super-awesome?


that was Will Carroll and he's an idiot
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lincecum threw 132 pitches tonight. Is Bruce Bochy out of his freaking mind?


Down for the Count

Article that's been running the last couple days about pitch counts and Lincecum up here in SF.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are so many more reliable signs of trouble: if a pitcher can't throw a strike on 2-and-0, if his curveball loses snap, if he constantly lifts or shakes his arm (indicating discomfort), if he takes more than his customary time between pitches, if he starts shaking off the catcher when the two have been in sync all night, if he walks the leadoff man with a five-run lead, if he can't throw his money pitch when he had it two innings earlier, if he's fussing with needless pickoff throws, if his body language betrays frustration.


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B. O. N. D. wrote:
nystro wrote:
Lincecum threw 132 pitches tonight. Is Bruce Bochy out of his freaking mind?


Down for the Count


Bruce Jenkins is a moron. Nearly every pitcher he references as examples of gutty guys able to pitch massive innings in part 1 had their careers end soon after.
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