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"They're just starting to grumble NOW ?" - on Zito
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Gorfo57
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Barry needs to quit trying to fix himself and let his coaches do that for him. Time in the bullpen is probably the best thing for him now. Some quiet bullpen sessions with Rags might do wonders for the guy.


Oy! Don't help him! I like the fact that's he's 0-6, out of the rotation, and costing the Gnats an arm and a leg -- and especially an arm!


A little RP here EJ? Damn, you are evil. LOL

Actually, reading between the lines, seems to me this is the approach the Giants have taken. They'd be absolutely foolish trying to turn a $126M contract into an Eckersley II experiment, although Sabean is quite capable of being such a fool.

Its more a confidence control move on the Giants manager and coaches, opting not to throw him back to the wolves, especially in a Park like the one in Philly with the likes of Utley, Howard, and Burrell licking their chops waiting to tee off on the guy.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a piece on moving Zito to the pen.

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It goes without saying Zito is as frustrated as he is ineffective. The 2002 AL Cy Young Award winner is dealing with velocity and command issues and doesn't display the self-assured body language he had in Oakland.

Yet he insists he remains confident and will bounce back as he did from previous slumps, though none were as drastic as this.

"I know it's fun to run with stories, 'Oh, is Zito done?' Whatever you guys have to say, go say it," Zito told a group of reporters. "From my standpoint, it's a bump in the road. It's a big bump. It's a battle. It's stuff I've gone through (with the A's), but there wasn't the kind of scrutiny around it because of the market or the contract.

"Oakland's under the radar. There weren't microscopes. I don't resist the microscope or any of that stuff. It's a new challenge. It's good. There's a lot of growth and strength that comes out of these things."


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Little more info for ya EJ.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bochy is moving Zito back to the rotation. He made zero relief appearances.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3384562
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh heh...Zito lost again! 0-7 now. The thing is, he didn't pitch badly at all. He only gave up 2 runs tonight and lost. Sucks to be struggling on a bad team.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zito didn't pitch all that bad considering what he let into print. If I were a hitter on the other team and read Zito talking about his big plan of being more aggressive early in the count, I'd have gone up there looking first pitch fastball.

Really, not too bad considering he made just the one mistake. A 2-run homer. No run support. Welcome back Barry. LOL

Tonight should be an interesting game to watch. Zito vs Oswalt. Astro bats sprang to life in LA over the weekend.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zito was pretty solid for the first four last night. He started laboring in the 5th. Then in the 6th, clinging to a 3-1 lead, he absolutely lost his mind choosing to pitch to Berkman with a 3-1 count and a runner on. Lobbed a change-up right down broadway and Berkman beat hell out of the pitch.

Tie score. No decision for Zito.

Oswalt finished strong and got the win, as the Giants went into their version of Randy Ball and blew the game open for the Astros 7-3.

Zito had good command of all his pitches early on. The Astros made him work after falling behind and basically wore him down. Once Zito starts to tire, he has no out pitch and has to rely on his change-up for outs, and at this point he just can't seem to get it down in the strike zone. Lobbing it in waist or chest high.

Berkman just waited him out and nailed about the shittiest change-up possible. Why Bochy didn't signal Molina to put him on with the count at 3-1 was just plain nuts.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another game bites the dust!

Zito lost again today and is now 2-11.

2 IP, 5 ER, 5 H, 4 BB, 2 K

$126,000,000
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Giants just called. Brian Sabean is interested in hiring Shoewizard to join the Giants forum message boards at MLB.com for the purposes of bagging on slumping Giants players.

Barry Zito heads the list.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorfo57 wrote:
The Giants just called. Brian Sabean is interested in hiring Shoewizard to join the Giants forum message boards at MLB.com for the purposes of bagging on slumping Giants players.

Barry Zito heads the list.

Trade Shoe for Lincecum, and we'll throw in Burke.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go figure. Barry Zito chucked 7 shutout innings at the Braves in Atl in a 5-0 SF win.
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