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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

levski wrote:
Upton is apparently taking lessons from Chris Young: cash in, check out.


So, you're saying next year, there IS a chance? Wink
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just received the latest issue of MLB Insiders Club mag (Vol 3: Issue 3).

Justin's on the cover, with an interview with him in the inside (On the Up and Up).

Nice publicity for the guy.
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJ-DBACKS-FAN wrote:
levski wrote:
Upton is apparently taking lessons from Chris Young: cash in, check out.


say it aint so.... say it aint so.....

CY24: Justin, pull yourself together or you'll find yourself in Reno.
JU10: They don't send pros like us to Triple-A
CY24: .........
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin's splits are pretty interesting this year. Strong reverse in small sample size. I have not been able to watch the broadcasts. Has Sut been talking about this at all ?

Vs RHP 182 PA, .259/.319/.476 .795 OPS 9 HR, 13 BB(7.1%) 56 K(31%) .333 BABIP
Vs LHP 52 PA, .227/.346/.318 .664 OPS 0 HR, 8 BB (15.3%) 17 K's, (33%) .370 BABIP

This of course is in sharp contrast to last year when he absolutely crushed left handed pitching.

2009
vs RHP 451 PA .277/.342/.463 .805 OPS 14 HR, 40 BB (8.8%)113 K (25%) .349 BABIP
vs LHP 137 PA .377/.455/.762 1.208 OPS 12 HR, 15 BB(11%) 24 K, (17.5%) .395 BABIP

As you can see, his numbers are pretty close vs. RHP to last year, except for a higher K %. Even the BABIP is about the same, but with less contact of course lower BA and OBP, but the power is there.

But where did all the power vs. LHP go ?

He's seeing fewer fastballs than last year, but not by a tremendous margin.

Pitch type He's seeing a few more cutters, a few more changeups, and a few more splits....but these percentages could just as easily be pitch classification errors. The differences are just not all that great.

Anyway, in addition to the obvious issue of his zooming K rate, the lack of power vs. Lefties is what is really making his season look like crap so far.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He had this same kind of weird reverse split in his rookie year down in low A

Which led Kevin Goldstein to rank him the 29th overall prospect in baseball

Laughing

Anyhow, JU and MR really need to get their heads out of their behinds soon...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A baseball guy I know told me he's just overswinging, ala Josh Whitesell. Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time to send him down to the minors?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time to let that rumor get to him. He'll start raking.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Time to let that rumor get to him. He'll start raking.


He does seem to play better when he is cranky
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like he wants to hit the ball 500 feet and is pulling off the ball. Not to mention he seems to be behind on the count quite a bit and guessing off-speed at the wrong time. Taking a lot of strikes that maybe aren't in his preferred zone.

Wish he would cut down on the swing and just hit it where it's pitched. He hits the ball so hard anyway that the homeruns would naturally come with the increased hits through the infield. He has significant power to straight away center and right field. He should take advantage of it. Would rather see him hit .300 the rest of the way over seeing 5 more tape measure home runs.

Cutting down on the swing would also decrease the likelihood of another ribcage strain. There's plenty of time left for him to still have a productive season.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoewizard wrote:
A baseball guy I know told me he's just overswinging, ala Josh Whitesell. Confused

It's overswinging and some sample size, but I think it's also a little bit of something else. While there have been a few fouled-straight-back's on favorable counts where he just barely missed a fat pitch that he knew he should have squared up - the kind that over a full season will probably find their way to the seats - there have some other fat pitches that he identified early and he was slightly ahead of. Looked worse than it was because of the awkwardness, but I think it's a GREAT problem to have. He's a maturing hitter, and shouldn't get the happy feet over a meatball down the middle as often.

Also, the defense has improved significantly as far as fielding base-hits cleanly. A couple bobbles here and there on goofy bloopers down the line or something, but it seems he's become much more comfortable on the line drives that get through.

As far as the counting stats, JU10 was on pace for something like 25HR/101R/83RBI/25SB just a couple days ago. The poor average and team performance really make his season look like crap.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has that Homerun over the Monster seats landed yet?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Has that Homerun over the Monster seats landed yet?

It crashed in the 7th inning today, along with the rest of the team.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dirtygary wrote:
Has that Homerun over the Monster seats landed yet?


I wish Upton would hit the ball more.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to fangraphs...Upton has the 11th highest trade value in MLB,

#11 – Justin Upton, OF, Arizona

Another tough one. Upton’s not having a great year, as his power is down and his strikeouts are up over last year’s performance, but we have to keep in mind just how young he is. He doesn’t turn 23 for another month and has already accumulated 57 career home runs. Guys who are this good, this young almost always develop into superstars. Unless Upton screws it up, he’s got greatness ahead of him, and the Diamondbacks have already locked him up through 2015 for a total of $50 million. He’s not a star yet, but not only could he become one, he could be the best player in baseball. At this price, his upside would make every team in baseball get in on the bidding if he became available.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Upton is the one player I really don't see "becoming available." At least I hope not.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin wrote:
Upton is the one player I really don't see "becoming available." At least I hope not.


He isn't. They just put down the most valuable players. Untouchable players like Heyward, Longoria, Tulo, Stanton, Hanson, Braun, and Rasmus are also there.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZERO chance kenny lets jerry trade JU10
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone notice that since Gibson has become manager Upton is hitting the ball to right field more often. It seems like he is doing it consciously and its coincided with a nice hot streak for him. Maybe a light went on and we've turned a corner in his development.
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