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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is always an unorthodox choice in ,ahem, any circle to hire people in positions of authority for which they have no experience at any level!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blaine Boyer said the bullpen has been revived by the new attitude instilled by interim manager Kirk Gibson.

"The old us, what we were, might have caved in," he said. "This team's got so much fight in it right now. We've just kind of got a new lease on life, a new outlook."
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blaine Boyer said the bullpen has been revived by the new attitude instilled by interim manager Kirk Gibson.

"The old us, what we were, might have caved in," he said. "This team's got so much fight in it right now. We've just kind of got a new lease on life, a new outlook."


when you win, these quotes look great....

when you lose these quotes look empty....

amazing what winning does for a team and its fans
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJ-DBACKS-FAN wrote:
TAP wrote:
Blaine Boyer said the bullpen has been revived by the new attitude instilled by interim manager Kirk Gibson.

"The old us, what we were, might have caved in," he said. "This team's got so much fight in it right now. We've just kind of got a new lease on life, a new outlook."


when you win, these quotes look great....

when you lose these quotes look empty....

amazing what winning does for a team and its fans


Right - lets win a game on the road first before we start crowing.

Also - how weak is it that professional baseball players need a managers attitude to get them to perform.

But - if these guys believe there is a difference - and it translates to better performance - thats great.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TAP wrote:
Blaine Boyer said the bullpen has been revived by the new attitude instilled by interim manager Kirk Gibson.

"The old us, what we were, might have caved in," he said. "This team's got so much fight in it right now. We've just kind of got a new lease on life, a new outlook."


Does it actually translate to performance and ultimately wins? We'll see I guess.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or maybe it's a case of the manager getting credit for a team when it plays well and players getting the blame when they play poorly? 3-10 in the first 13 games, but win the next 3 and now they're fired up? Don't get me wrong, I'd love for Gibson to be a great manager for this team and get them totally turned around, but please...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They didnt seem too fired up last friday night. In fact they seemed like they didnt even give a shit.

Gracie even said "They cashed it in tonight"

Take these 3 wins and transfer it over 10 games, then 20, then we can talk.

Four game series against the Giants who are a much better team. We mail it in tonight our excuse is last nights game.

Then we will be lucky to win 1 of the next 3.

2 of 4 will be a christmas miracle. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Or maybe it's a case of the manager getting credit for a team when it plays well and players getting the blame when they play poorly? 3-10 in the first 13 games, but win the next 3 and now they're fired up? Don't get me wrong, I'd love for Gibson to be a great manager for this team and get them totally turned around, but please...


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Baggarly beat writer for the Giants had this to say about Gibby. I didnt watch the game yesterday so cant comment. I will leave that up to you all.

The Diamondbacks are awful, they strike out too much and they canít get a hit with runners in scoring position. But with Kirk Gibson, some of those things will change.

I liked the way Gibson managed the early innings today. When Aubrey Huff grimaced as he stepped back to first base on a pickoff throw, Gibson quickly called for another. (Huff nearly rolled his ankle but was OK, by the way.)

When the Giants had runners at the corners in the second inning, there was a question to whether Tim Lincecum would bunt after swinging at the first pitch. Gibson had his pitcher, Barry Enright, fake to third to see if Lincecum would square. He didnít.

The next pitch was a pitchout. The runners werenít going.

And on the next pitch, Lincecum squared to bunt and got it down, advancing the trail runner to second base.

Thatís the kind of cat-and-mouse stuff I love to see.

Gibson had one other bit of brilliance, calling for a hit-and-run with Augie Ojeda after Gerardo Parra hit a two-out single. Shortstop Edgar Renteria vacated his position to cover second base and Ojedaís ground ball went through. The nice play set up a two-run double for Enright, who can swing it a little.

One other feather in Gibsonís cap: He didnít bite on the decoy when Rowand went out to the on-deck circle for Lincecum in the eighth. Gibson intentionally walked Freddy Sanchez, and Lincecum emerged from the dugout to hit.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC, the telecast said that the D'Backs are the best in the league with RISP...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jdub wrote:
IIRC, the telecast said that the D'Backs are the best in the league with RISP...


It's a shame that team wasn't at bat with first and third and no one out in the 8th inning of a 2-2 ballgame; or at bat with runners on the corners and one out in the 9th inning of a 2-2 ballgame... because that team would probably have won the game, rather than losing 3-2 in the 10th inning... Evil or Very Mad


You also have to love the irony of using Cole Gillespie instead of Mark "Special K" Reynolds as a pinch-hitter to avoid (as Schulte and Candiotti speculated) a strikeout - only to have Gillespie strike out...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EvilJuan wrote:
Jdub wrote:
IIRC, the telecast said that the D'Backs are the best in the league with RISP...


It's a shame that team wasn't at bat with first and third and no one out in the 8th inning of a 2-2 ballgame; or at bat with runners on the corners and one out in the 9th inning of a 2-2 ballgame... because that team would probably have won the game, rather than losing 3-2 in the 10th inning... Evil or Very Mad


You also have to love the irony of using Cole Gillespie instead of Mark "Special K" Reynolds as a pinch-hitter to avoid (as Schulte and Candiotti speculated) a strikeout - only to have Gillespie strike out...


the fact MR27 was not used tells me (and should tell him) that he can say what he wants about the K's not being a big deal....they are

Mark, i love you, but you HAVE to cut down on the K's seriously, no joke

Cole Gillespie was used over you... not cause he is a better hitter than you..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJ-DBACKS-FAN wrote:
EvilJuan wrote:
Jdub wrote:
IIRC, the telecast said that the D'Backs are the best in the league with RISP...


It's a shame that team wasn't at bat with first and third and no one out in the 8th inning of a 2-2 ballgame; or at bat with runners on the corners and one out in the 9th inning of a 2-2 ballgame... because that team would probably have won the game, rather than losing 3-2 in the 10th inning... Evil or Very Mad


You also have to love the irony of using Cole Gillespie instead of Mark "Special K" Reynolds as a pinch-hitter to avoid (as Schulte and Candiotti speculated) a strikeout - only to have Gillespie strike out...


the fact MR27 was not used tells me (and should tell him) that he can say what he wants about the K's not being a big deal....they are

Mark, i love you, but you HAVE to cut down on the K's seriously, no joke

Cole Gillespie was used over you... not cause he is a better hitter than you..


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Diamondbacks are awful, they strike out too much and they canít get a hit with runners in scoring position.


Well....half right

NL Team BA W/ RISP

1. AZ .278
2. SD .276
3. CIN .274
4. FLA .270
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15. SFO .245
16. Hou .242

Lg avg .261


Don't you just love well informed writers ? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoewizard wrote:
Quote:
The Diamondbacks are awful, they strike out too much and they canít get a hit with runners in scoring position.


Well....half right

NL Team BA W/ RISP

1. AZ .278
2. SD .276
3. CIN .274
4. FLA .270
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15. SFO .245
16. Hou .242

Lg avg .261


Don't you just love well informed writers ? Laughing


oh snap
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matt wrote:
shoewizard wrote:
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The Diamondbacks are awful, they strike out too much and they canít get a hit with runners in scoring position.


Well....half right

NL Team BA W/ RISP

1. AZ .278
2. SD .276
3. CIN .274
4. FLA .270
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15. SFO .245
16. Hou .242

Lg avg .261


Don't you just love well informed writers ? Laughing


oh snap


how is that possible (not saying shoe is telling us a lie) but all i remember is guys left on base left and right!

this stat makes me thing of T.O.P. in football, if you win 30-21 no one cares your T.O.P. is ten min. less than the team you just beat..

we may have the best ave.... but we dont score enough runs
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have the 3rd fewest PA's W/RISP.

IOW, we don't get enough men on base and into scoring position in the first place.

We have a league avg OBP, but we strikeout so much and have a below lg avg B.A., so we don't get guys into scoring position much.
[url]
ttp://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/split.cgi?t=b&lg=NL&year=2010#RISP[/url]
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoewizard wrote:
We have the 3rd fewest PA's W/RISP.

IOW, we don't get enough men on base and into scoring position in the first place.

We have a league avg OBP, but we strikeout so much and have a below lg avg B.A., so we don't get guys into scoring position much.
[url]
ttp://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/split.cgi?t=b&lg=NL&year=2010#RISP[/url]


Ah the turd lining on the only positive stat for the team....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoewizard wrote:

Don't you just love well informed writers ? Laughing


Im pretty sure he was talking about the 4 games he saw where the DBACKS went 5-35 in the four game set vs the Giants.

But if not you know what I say never let the facts get in the way of a good story. Wink Laughing
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