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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2008/1/5/14110/39616

Sickels has the AZ top 20 prospects

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# Jarrod Parker, RHP, Grade B+
# Max Scherzer, RHP, Grade B+
# Gerardo Parra, OF, Grade B
# Billy Buckner, RHP, Grade B
# Wes Roemer, RHP, Grade B
# Brooks Brown, RHP, Grade B-
# Esmerling Vasquez, RHP, Grade B-
# Barry Enright, RHP, Grade B-
# Juan Gutierrez, RHP, Grade C+
# Emilio Bonifacio, INF, Grade C+
# Hector Ambriz, RHP, Grade C+
# Matt Torra, RHP, Grade C+ (look at his first half/second half splits)
# Cyle Hankerd, OF, Grade C+
# Ed Easley, C, Grade C+
# Dan Stange, RHP, Grade C+
# Jailen Peguero, RHP, Grade C
# Matt Green, RHP, Grade C
# Reynaldo Navarro, SS, Grade C (great tools but too raw to rank higher for me)
# Leo Rosales, RHP, Grade C (personal favorite, relief sleeper for '08 )
# Sean Morgan, RHP, Grade C

Was able to pull pitching coach Bryan Price aside after yesterday’s workout to ask him what guys were jumping out at him so far in camp.

Price said that there are too many guys who have jumped out at him, so he wanted to go with guys that have surprised instead.

Two pitchers he named: Reliever Leo Rosales (acquired from Padres for Scott Hairston) and starter Hector Ambriz (2006 fifth rounder out of UCLA). Here’s what he said about each.

On Rosales: “Getting a chance to see Leo Rosales has been a nice surprise from the younger, less established group. He’s got three very, very good pitches. A four-seam fastball, hard breaking ball and a tremendous change-up. He’s just been pounding the zone side to side with all of his pitches. He looks very polished. He’s been terrific.”

On Ambriz: “Hector Ambriz has been sensational. You get guys who are hard throwers, but you match that with good command and it’s quite a combination. I’ve seen him now three or four times and he has been good every day. He has been consistently good every day. I know they consider him a power arm. Right now I see him as a starter, an innings-eater”

Nick Piecoro / The Arizona Republic
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's great to be excited about some pitching prospects for a change. I remember the time when folks were going ga ga over Casey Daigle...

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All the more reasons to let Lyon and Cruz walk after this year. Extra draft picks, baby...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's great to be excited about some pitching prospects for a change. I remember the time when folks were going ga ga over Casey Daigle...

Rolling Eyes

All the more reasons to let Lyon and Cruz walk after this year. Extra draft picks, baby...


And justification to move Scherzer to the 'pen.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a few days ago, but if you haven't seen it, it's news to you Smile

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=754

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From The Top: Measuring Which Farm Systems Are Closest To The Majors

Team CTM Score: After doing that for a team’s top 10 prospects, find the sum of every player’s CTM Score. Divide that by 55 (the sum of integers 1 through 10) to get each team’s final score. A team with 10 Triple-A prospects among its top 10 will score a 5.0, while a team with all short-season or Rookie-level players in its top 10 will score a 1.0.

CLOSEST TO MAJORS
# TEAM SCORE
20 Diamondbacks 2.91

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh sure.....NOW he comes up with this score. D backs would have looked a lot better in this in 2006 & 2007. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh sure.....NOW he comes up with this score. D backs would have looked a lot better in this in 2006 & 2007. Rolling Eyes



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The Diamondbacks last year had a 4.00 CTM Score. They received key contributions from five of their top 10 prospects—righthanders Micah Owings and Tony Pena, third baseman Mark Reynolds and outfielders Chris Young and Justin Upton—en route to a National League West title.

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Oops....I DID scan the article, but I was getting ready to go out, and obviously didn't read carefully.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick Piecoro / The Arizona Republic tonight wrote:
Leo Rosales, who seems likely to start the season with Triple-A Tucson, has impressed with his command of three pitches, in particular his change-up, which has drawn raves from coaches and hitters. The change-up has drastic, downward action and tails toward Rosales' arm side.

"It's nasty," catcher Miguel Montero said. "It's like a screwball."

Rosales, 26, has leaned on the pitch while compiling a 2.51 ERA in 232 appearances in his minor-league career.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7188

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19. Arizona Diamondbacks
Last Year's Ranking: 6
Why They're Down: Justin Upton, Chris Young, Miguel Montero, Mark Reynolds, and Micah Owings arrived in the big leagues; much of what's left was sent to Oakland in the Dan Haren deal.
Strengths: The '07 draft adds arms of both the power and finesse types; some very athletic position players.
Weaknesses: There's very little power left in the system; there will be a gap while they wait for the young arms to develop.
Outlook for 2009 Ranking: Up slightly. Six of their Top 11 Prospects begin this year in A-ball, so it's more of a glass half-full thing.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rosales is sounding like a good pickup...

Very pleased to see the cycle of our prospects comin around to the pitching side.
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Nick Piecoro / The Arizona Republic tonight wrote:
TUCSON - As usual, none of the players involved in the first round of spring-training cuts would qualify as a surprise, but a few stood out in the early weeks of camp for the potential they flashed.

Count right-handers Hector Ambriz, Barry Enright and Wes Roemer among those who made the most of their time in major-league camp.

As the Diamondbacks farm system's strength has shifted from position players to pitchers in the past two years, those three are among the more polished in the organization. They impressed the major-league coaching staff with their poise and ability.

"All three of those guys are guys we feel could be quick movers," manager Bob Melvin said. "Guys who pitched at big-time college programs and have shown the mental capacity to handle this level and have good stuff on top of it."

Ambriz, a UCLA product, likely will start the season in Double A, and Enright (Pepperdine) and Roemer (Cal State-Fullerton) probably are slated for Class A Visalia.

Also reassigned to minor-league camp were right-handers Brooks Brown and Matt Green, lefty Mark Rosen, infielder Jamie D'Antona, catcher Frank Curreri and outfielder Chris Rahl.

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Nick Piecoro / The Arizona Republic today wrote:
Bob Melvin has liked what he’s seen from reliever Jailen Peguero in recent days. The right-hander gave up a walk off home run in Surprise on March 6 but hasn’t allowed a run since. That’s a string of five straight scoreless appearances.

He’s always had a very good slider, but Melvin said he has now developed a usable sinking, two-seam fastball. Melvin saw him come into a game in the Caribbean Series with the bases loaded loaded and nobody out and proceed to get three consecutive ground ball outs with the sinker.

Add him to the list of guys who probably won’t break camp with the team but will probably be in the majors at some point.

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Nick Piecoro / The Arizona Republic today wrote:
Bob Melvin has liked what he’s seen from reliever Jailen Peguero in recent days. The right-hander gave up a walk off home run in Surprise on March 6 but hasn’t allowed a run since. That’s a string of five straight scoreless appearances.

He’s always had a very good slider, but Melvin said he has now developed a usable sinking, two-seam fastball. Melvin saw him come into a game in the Caribbean Series with the bases loaded loaded and nobody out and proceed to get three consecutive ground ball outs with the sinker.

Add him to the list of guys who probably won’t break camp with the team but will probably be in the majors at some point.

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Well, the guys we traded for (Fruto, Rosales, Buckner) haven't done much to impress this spring, so hopefully Peguero can step up if needed
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For BA subscribers

http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/prospects/column/2008/265851.html
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levski on January 2, 2008 wrote:
Sickels ranks the top 20 in the A's system

http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2008/1/2/135032/1530

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Grant Desme, OF, Grade C+


msnbc.com today wrote:
A's outfield prospect Grant Desme has decided to end his baseball career in order to pursue the priesthood.

Desme, 23, was selected in the second round of the 2007 draft and enjoyed a breakout 2009 season, batting .288/.365/.568 with 31 home runs and 40 stolen bases in just 486 at-bats on two different Single-A levels. He almost certainly would have started the 2010 season with Double-A Midland.
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levski on January 2, 2008 wrote:
Sickels ranks the top 20 in the A's system

http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2008/1/2/135032/1530

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Grant Desme, OF, Grade C+


msnbc.com today wrote:
A's outfield prospect Grant Desme has decided to end his baseball career in order to pursue the priesthood.

Desme, 23, was selected in the second round of the 2007 draft and enjoyed a breakout 2009 season, batting .288/.365/.568 with 31 home runs and 40 stolen bases in just 486 at-bats on two different Single-A levels. He almost certainly would have started the 2010 season with Double-A Midland.


God won the trade discussion with Billy Beane.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Two pitchers he named: Reliever Leo Rosales (acquired from Padres for Scott Hairston) and starter Hector Ambriz (2006 fifth rounder out of UCLA). Here’s what he said about each.

On Rosales: “Getting a chance to see Leo Rosales has been a nice surprise from the younger, less established group. He’s got three very, very good pitches. A four-seam fastball, hard breaking ball and a tremendous change-up. He’s just been pounding the zone side to side with all of his pitches. He looks very polished. He’s been terrific.”

On Ambriz: “Hector Ambriz has been sensational. You get guys who are hard throwers, but you match that with good command and it’s quite a combination. I’ve seen him now three or four times and he has been good every day. He has been consistently good every day. I know they consider him a power arm. Right now I see him as a starter, an innings-eater”

Nick Piecoro / The Arizona Republic


do all organizations over hype all of their prospects like the Dbacks do? I understand you want to put them in the best light and some hyperbole is expected, but doesn't it get silly after a while.

Remember the talk that Parra was a leading candidate for Rookie of the Year? Remember that Luis Terrero was the next Vlad Guerero? Ownings, Kata, etc.


Actually remember how the babybacks were going to insure that we were a contender for years? For fun, I looked at the babybacks, here is a listing and whether they had a major league career worth the hype at the time:

Kata: No
Cintron: ?, not up to the hype though
Hammock: No
Overbay: Yes, but traded for magic beans
Webb: YES...Hell, YES, but he came up as pretty much un-hyped
Andrew Good: Who? (10 starts that year)
Patterson: No; one good season after being traded for beans that weren't even represented as magic
Valverde: Yes

And these guys were guys who they saw play in the majors. The prospect hype is so much that I generally don't believe what anyone in the organization (which includes the announcers) says unless it is negative.
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And these guys were guys who they saw play in the majors. The prospect hype is so much that I generally don't believe what anyone in the organization (which includes the announcers) says unless it is negative.


You are a wise man, stu.
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Klaw farm system rankings

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=4861174

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The Diamondbacks tied for the fewest players in the top 100 of any team, but I could see them landing five or six more spots next year after they had the best draft of any club in 2009. The system was all but barren before that draft, however, and it's going to take some time for that new talent to percolate on to the master ranking.
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Klaw farm system rankings

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=4861174

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The Diamondbacks tied for the fewest players in the top 100 of any team, but I could see them landing five or six more spots next year after they had the best draft of any club in 2009. The system was all but barren before that draft, however, and it's going to take some time for that new talent to percolate on to the master ranking.


By "it's going to take some time" KLaw means "it's going to take a few trades to division rivals"...
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Cant pass up the next Leo Rosales or Emiliano Fruto, you know.
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Cant pass up the next Leo Rosales or Emiliano Fruto, you know.


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Matt Hagen / The Hardball Times this morning wrote:
Top 10 prospects for 2010: Arizona Diamondbacks

1. Jarrod Parker / SP / For Parker, everything hinges on a successful recovery from Tommy John surgery. Before the surgery he was one of the more dominant pitchers in the minor leagues. Parker has, of course, been severely downgraded, but he still fits in near the bottom of my top-100 list and at the top of Arizona's top 10.

2. Brandon Allen / 1B / Allen had a terrific 2009 minor league season, proving that his 2008 breakout was not a fluke. Yet his brief major league debut and Arizona Fall League performance were lackluster to say the least. Which hitter will we see in 2010?

3. Ryan Wheeler / 1B / Arizona did a fantastic job restocking a failing farm system in the 2009 draft, as seven of the next eight players are from that draft. My favorite of the group is the fifth-rounder Wheeler. He murdered the ball over a half-season, and if he picks up where he left off he could move fast.

4. Bobby Borchering / 3B/1B / Borchering draws offensive comparisons to Chipper Jones for his plus bat speed and emerging power. He debuted in the rookie Pioneer League and looked like anything but Chipper Jones, with his head-scratching plate discipline and cringe-worthy contact skills. He has likable tools but plenty to learn.

5. David Nick / 2B / Nick showed everything you could possibly look for in a high school second baseman making his professional debut. He showed more power and speed than most were expecting, and his patience and contact skills have been very solid for a high schooler. I'm intrigued. What will he do for a followup?

6. Mike Belfiore / SP/RP / Belfiore looked like he had a raw but promising arm coming into the 2009 draft. He was selected earlier than I was expecting, but his numbers have justified his sandwich-round selection thus far. I'm not sure if he is a starter or a reliever, but he has great sleeper potential.

7. Wade Miley / SP / Miley's 2009 was a disappointment of sorts, as his arm doesn't have much projection left and his numbers were sub-par. But Miley induces ground balls and has a plus pitch with his curveball. With improved command he could move quickly and eventually settle in as a solid mid-rotation starter.

8. Chris Owings / SS/2B / Draft reports spoke highly of Owings' intangibles, game knowledge and natural instincts. And he showed off his quick, compact stroke and workable speed during his Pioneer League debut. But his plate discipline has looked awful and he doesn't project to have much power.

9. A.J. Pollock / OF / Pollock has plus contact skills, good gap power and above-average speed. But his plate discipline and lack of home run power will ultimately hinder him, leaving me thinking that he is nothing more than an average outfielder one day.

10. Marc Krauss / OF / Krauss has a great, natural eye at the plate, with above-average bat speed and the potential for average power. He doesn't have the tools to be a star, but he could move quickly through the system and turn into an average corner outfielder.
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TAP wrote:
Matt Hagen / The Hardball Times this morning wrote:
Top 10 prospects for 2010: Arizona Diamondbacks

10. Marc Krauss / OF / Krauss has a great, natural eye at the plate, with above-average bat speed and the potential for average power. He doesn't have the tools to be a star, but he could move quickly through the system and turn into an average corner outfielder.


In his latest round of 'Meet the Prospects' Nick meets Krauss and highlights how his fielding has already improved one year into his career with the Dbacks as he has shed of a broken foot injury he was playing with last year Shocked . I genuinely believe that if Krauss can improve his fielding to average he could be an excellent outfield prospect. His bat will carry him as he seems to have a very good combination of a good idea and very good power.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/NickPiecoro/76949
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